Monday, September 23, 2013

TheTrueGospel

The *true* gospel

What is the Gospel?

It is interesting how much we have been conditioned by church culture. I just finished listening to a podcast from Nomad Podcast based on the idea of re-assessing the message of the gospel in terms of how it is communicated by the Bible vs. the way that it has been communicated through churches during the last 50 –100 years (at least as a starting point).

Tim and (sorry can’t remember the other guys name and couldn’t find it on the site) interviewed a writer by the name of Scot McKnight. His premise was essentially that the ‘gosepl’ as communicated by icons such as Billy Graham, that focusses specifically on the ‘sinner to salvation’ but has missed the need of discipleship.

I found the discussion quite intellectually stimulating and engaging. The truth is that I found the last few )months quite dry in terms of christian growth and this is the first christian discussion that I have found inspiring for a while.

In thinking about non-institutional church and the practical living out of christian community the theological basis for this modality can be a little out-weighed by the get saved model of evangelism (well, in terms of the literature that I have read and been exposed to ).

McKnight has presented the question, what does the Bible say the Gospel is? rather than (as he put it) the hijacking of part of the Gospel. He suggested the point is understanding who Jesus is, what he did and what he said, in the context of being Jewish, in Israel at the turn of the Century.

It is interesting that this topic (in a sense) has reciently come up in discussion with a friend who referenced the work of scolar (fill this in) who is Jewish and has looked at the Jewish context of the gospels (ie. the readings of the first four books of the NT).

McKnight contends that the message that we are to convey to people is not simply that people are separated from God by sin and that it is through the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus that we can be reconnected (consider the Bridge to Life and other tracks), but that the Gospel is the whole story of Jesus and to a further extent - the person of Jesus. He goes onto say that the complete Gospel needs to be understood in terms of Jesus being the Jewish messiah, the Jewishness of which is imperrative to understanding the Gospel.

This is also reflected in the naming if the first four books of the NT (gospels), acknowledging that the Gospel is bigger than one or two catch line summaries. It is (obvious as it might sound) because they simply tell the story of Jesus.

Having listened to this podcast has given me the encouragement and motivation to once again engage in a fresh way with the Bible (and more specifically the Gospels) in reviewing and assessing my personal reading of the Gospel message, and clarifying it in a way that is true to scripture and not just my personal emphaisis or hijacking.

Thursday, September 12, 2013

Re: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...

As for me, I will stay home with the kids next week while my right hand man is away...

Happy to hear you had a date night Jess & Marty, hope it was a good one:-)

Amy
On 11/09/2013, at 4:12 PM, Jessica Howard wrote:

Hi everyone!
Happy to host next week, but also realize that temporarily-single mums might prefer to have Focus at their place. Tonight is out for the Howards, as we have driving duties for Josh and we're killing two birds with one stone and making it a date night as well : ) 
Love,
Jess 

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013, nathankmurray@hotmail.com wrote:
Me too...on camp that is until Thurs arvo.
Nath

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Subject: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...
Date: Tue, Sep 10, 2013 2:56 PM


So do you want to have a think about what you want to do - where you want to go?

Chris

Wednesday, September 11, 2013

RE: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...

Hope you have an enjoyable date night!

Aly thought the attached text could be good to read through together and stimulate discussion.

Nath



Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:12:35 +1000
Subject: Re: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...
From: jesshoward68@gmail.com
To: nathankmurray@hotmail.com
CC: chollier@wcc.qld.edu.au; choofahollier.nnym-ca@blogger.com; alsmalalison@gmail.com; martin@net.vg; jessica@net.vg; mrsahollier@gmail.com

Hi everyone!
Happy to host next week, but also realize that temporarily-single mums might prefer to have Focus at their place. Tonight is out for the Howards, as we have driving duties for Josh and we're killing two birds with one stone and making it a date night as well : ) 
Love,
Jess 

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013, nathankmurray@hotmail.com wrote:
Me too...on camp that is until Thurs arvo.
Nath

Sent from my HTC

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To: "NNYM" <choofahollier.nnym-ca@blogger.com>, "Nathan Murray" <nathankmurray@hotmail.com>, "Ally Murray" <alsmalalison@gmail.com>, "Martin Howard" <martin@net.vg>, "Jess Howard" <jessica@net.vg>, "Amy Hollier" <mrsahollier@gmail.com>
Subject: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...
Date: Tue, Sep 10, 2013 2:56 PM


So do you want to have a think about what you want to do - where you want to go?

Chris

Re: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...

Hi everyone!
Happy to host next week, but also realize that temporarily-single mums might prefer to have Focus at their place. Tonight is out for the Howards, as we have driving duties for Josh and we're killing two birds with one stone and making it a date night as well : ) 
Love,
Jess 

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013, nathankmurray@hotmail.com wrote:
Me too...on camp that is until Thurs arvo.
Nath

Sent from my HTC

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To: "NNYM" <choofahollier.nnym-ca@blogger.com>, "Nathan Murray" <nathankmurray@hotmail.com>, "Ally Murray" <alsmalalison@gmail.com>, "Martin Howard" <martin@net.vg>, "Jess Howard" <jessica@net.vg>, "Amy Hollier" <mrsahollier@gmail.com>
Subject: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...
Date: Tue, Sep 10, 2013 2:56 PM


So do you want to have a think about what you want to do - where you want to go?

Chris

Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Re: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...

Me too...on camp that is until Thurs arvo.
Nath

Sent from my HTC

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Subject: Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...
Date: Tue, Sep 10, 2013 2:56 PM


So do you want to have a think about what you want to do - where you want to go?

Chris

Calendar Update

Guys, I’ve just gone through and updated events till the end of the year.

Have a look over it and check to see if any changes need to be made.

Also, Anthony and Genelle (sorry spelling?) may want to host and be involved…

Anyway,

Chris.

Guys, I'm away on Camp next week...

So do you want to have a think about what you want to do - where you want to go?

Chris